਍ഀഀ ਍㰀洀攀琀愀 栀琀琀瀀ⴀ攀焀甀椀瘀㴀∀䌀漀渀琀攀渀琀ⴀ吀礀瀀攀∀ 挀漀渀琀攀渀琀㴀∀琀攀砀琀⼀栀琀洀氀㬀 挀栀愀爀猀攀琀㴀椀猀漀ⴀ㠀㠀㔀㤀ⴀ㄀∀㸀ഀഀ ਍ഀഀ ਍㰀⼀栀攀愀搀㸀ഀഀ ਍㰀戀漀搀礀㸀ഀഀ The legacy webpages have been moved to the IPv6 portal go6.net for your historical reference. ਍㰀瀀㸀㰀昀漀渀琀 昀愀挀攀㴀∀䌀漀甀爀椀攀爀 一攀眀∀㸀䴀椀渀甀琀攀猀 漀昀 㘀戀漀渀攀 䈀伀䘀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 ⠀搀爀愀昀琀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 　⸀㈀ 㜀䄀瀀爀　㌀⤀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ 18 March 2003
਍匀愀渀 䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀挀漀Ⰰ 䤀䔀吀䘀ⴀ㔀㘀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Jordi Palet <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> chaired the ਍洀攀攀琀椀渀最㬀 吀栀攀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 昀漀爀洀攀搀 戀礀 渀漀琀攀猀 琀愀欀攀渀 戀礀 吀椀洀 䌀栀漀眀渀Ⰰ 䨀漀爀搀椀 倀愀氀攀琀 愀渀搀 ഀഀ Mat Ford.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Attendance was ~150.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ ===========================
਍䄀搀洀椀渀椀猀琀爀愀琀椀瘀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀㨀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍圀攀戀 猀椀琀攀㨀 ☀氀琀㬀㰀愀 栀爀攀昀㴀∀⼀渀最琀爀愀渀猀⼀渀最琀爀愀渀猀开瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀ⴀ猀琀愀琀甀猀⸀栀琀洀氀∀㸀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀㘀戀漀渀攀⸀渀攀琀㰀⼀愀㸀☀最琀㬀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Agenda
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Status and discussion of the proposal for the “transfer of 6bone address ਍洀愀渀愀最攀洀攀渀琀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 琀漀 刀䤀刀猀ᴀ†ⴀ 䈀漀戀 䘀椀渀欀Ⰰ ㌀　 洀椀渀猀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ <http://www.6bone.net/ngtrans/IETF-54-Yokohama/6bone-registry.pdf>
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Presentation of the 6bone phase-out plan - Bob Hinden, 10 mins
਍☀氀琀㬀㰀愀 栀爀攀昀㴀∀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀椀攀琀昀⸀漀爀最⼀椀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀ⴀ搀爀愀昀琀猀⼀搀爀愀昀琀ⴀ昀椀渀欀ⴀ㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀ⴀ　　⸀琀砀琀∀㸀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀椀攀琀昀⸀漀爀最⼀椀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀ⴀ搀爀愀昀琀猀⼀搀爀愀昀琀ⴀ昀椀渀欀ⴀ㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀ⴀ　　⸀琀砀琀㰀⼀愀㸀☀最琀㬀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䐀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 瀀栀愀猀攀ⴀ漀甀琀 瀀氀愀渀 ⴀ ㈀　 洀椀渀猀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Meeting minutes
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ ===
਍匀琀愀琀甀猀 愀渀搀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀瀀漀猀愀氀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 ᰀ琠爀愀渀猀昀攀爀 漀昀 㘀戀漀渀攀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 ഀഀ management responsibilities to RIRs” - Bob Fink
਍☀氀琀㬀㰀愀 栀爀攀昀㴀∀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀㘀戀漀渀攀⸀渀攀琀⼀渀最琀爀愀渀猀⼀䤀䔀吀䘀ⴀ㔀㐀ⴀ夀漀欀漀栀愀洀愀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ爀攀最椀猀琀爀礀⸀瀀搀昀∀㸀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀㘀戀漀渀攀⸀渀攀琀⼀渀最琀爀愀渀猀⼀䤀䔀吀䘀ⴀ㔀㐀ⴀ夀漀欀漀栀愀洀愀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ爀攀最椀猀琀爀礀⸀瀀搀昀㰀⼀愀㸀☀最琀㬀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍匀䰀䤀䐀䔀匀㨀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ <http://6bone.net/ngtrans/IETF-56-SanFrancisco/6bone-RIR-proposal.ppt>
਍☀氀琀㬀㰀愀 栀爀攀昀㴀∀⸀⸀⼀䤀䔀吀䘀ⴀ㔀㘀ⴀ匀愀渀䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀挀漀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ刀䤀刀ⴀ瀀爀漀瀀漀猀愀氀⸀瀀搀昀∀㸀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀⸀渀攀琀⼀渀最琀爀愀渀猀⼀䤀䔀吀䘀ⴀ㔀㘀ⴀ匀愀渀䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀挀漀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ刀䤀刀ⴀ瀀爀漀瀀漀猀愀氀⸀瀀搀昀㰀⼀愀㸀☀最琀㬀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䈀漀戀 䘀椀渀欀 戀爀椀攀昀氀礀 漀瘀攀爀瘀椀攀眀攀搀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀✀猀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 吀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 昀漀爀 猀攀瘀攀渀ഀഀ years as an operating testbed, and the ipng/ipv6 project has started 10 years ਍愀最漀⸀ഀഀ The original purpose of the 6bone was to test standards and implementations, and the original address allocation ਍挀愀洀攀 昀爀漀洀 刀䘀䌀 ㈀㐀㜀㄀ 戀礀 䘀椀渀欀Ⰰ 䠀椀渀搀攀渀 愀渀搀 倀漀猀琀攀氀⸀ 伀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀ഀഀ years the focus moved towards testing operational procedures and helping to ਍攀瘀漀氀瘀攀 琀栀攀 䤀倀瘀㘀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 瀀爀攀昀椀砀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀 瀀爀漀挀攀搀甀爀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 㘀戀漀渀攀ഀഀ experience as a bootstrap.   
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Current general use is for early experience, for free, for ISPs and ਍漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀猀 琀漀 猀攀攀 椀昀 䤀倀瘀㘀 椀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀洀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 爀漀甀琀椀渀最 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀愀渀挀攀ഀഀ and stability is not always the best (e.g., see the Savola 6bone-mess I-D), so we ਍渀攀攀搀 愀 洀漀爀攀 爀漀戀甀猀琀 挀漀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀渀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀 琀攀猀琀戀攀搀猀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 匀漀洀攀 瀀吀䰀䄀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀ഀഀ have recently been reclaimed. 
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ In early 2002 discussions were started with the RIRs driven by two issues: ਍䌀氀愀爀椀昀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀 爀漀氀攀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 爀攀最椀猀琀爀礀 栀愀猀 眀椀琀栀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 刀䤀刀猀 䤀倀瘀㘀 ഀഀ address registry and gaining access to the ip6.arpa reverse registry.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Not at issue, contrary to common perception, is that it was being done because ਍䈀漀戀 䘀椀渀欀 眀愀猀 爀攀琀椀爀椀渀最 愀猀 䈀漀戀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 椀渀琀攀渀搀攀搀 琀漀 猀琀愀礀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀搀 琀漀 愀猀猀椀猀琀 椀渀 愀渀礀 ഀഀ appropriate way, or that the IETF ngtrans wg was closed thus a new home was ਍渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ 吀栀攀 䤀䔀吀䘀 猀琀椀氀氀 昀攀攀氀猀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䐀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 漀昀 攀愀爀氀礀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 刀䤀刀猀ᤀ†洀愀渀愀最攀洀攀渀琀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀 挀氀攀愀爀 琀栀愀琀 ഀഀ they could not speak to the issue of how long the 6bone allocation authority ਍眀漀甀氀搀 氀愀猀琀⸀ 刀愀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀愀猀 愀渀 椀猀猀甀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䤀䔀吀䘀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 琀栀攀 䤀䄀一䄀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 ഀഀ deal with. To this end, a discussion was opened within the IETF on 6bone ਍瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䄀氀猀漀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 椀猀猀甀攀 漀昀 眀漀甀氀搀 漀瘀攀爀猀攀攀 漀瀀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀㼀 䔀瘀攀渀 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 挀愀洀攀 ഀഀ under the IETF ngtrans wg, it really had almost nothing to do with its ਍漀瀀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀愀氀 瀀漀氀椀挀椀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀琀礀 椀琀猀攀氀昀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀猀 椀琀猀 瀀漀氀椀挀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 ഀഀ everyone expects that it will continue to do so.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Many comments came from the 6bone community, but most relevant ones focus on ਍栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 瀀愀礀 昀漀爀 琀攀猀琀戀攀搀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀椀渀最 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀渀ᤀ琠 栀愀搀 琀漀 瀀愀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀⸀ ഀഀ Note that many 6bone participants (at all levels) do so to get experience and in ਍琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 挀漀渀瘀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀椀爀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 眀漀爀琀栀 瀀愀礀椀渀最 ഀഀ for, i.e., the price is an issue, no matter how small it is.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ There was concern about having to go through more complexity. It isn’t clear if ਍琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 爀攀愀氀 椀猀猀甀攀 愀猀 眀攀 搀漀渀ᤀ琠 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 愀 瀀吀䰀䄀ⴀ氀攀瘀攀氀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 ഀഀ with the RIRs. This may be a holdover of dislike of necessary procedures for ਍猀挀愀爀挀攀 䤀倀瘀㐀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 猀瀀愀挀攀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀渀挀攀爀渀 椀猀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 瀀愀礀 昀漀爀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 椀猀 愀 瘀漀氀甀渀琀攀攀爀 攀昀昀漀爀琀☀†ഀഀ RIR services aren’t needed. There is unwillingness to pay for service and then ਍戀攀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀渀搀 漀甀爀 昀爀攀攀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀猀 琀漀 搀漀眀渀猀琀爀攀愀洀 甀猀攀爀猀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䴀愀渀礀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀洀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 刀䤀刀 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀琀礀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ 䈀漀戀 猀愀椀搀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 ഀഀ paraphrase the single largest concern as “…why should the 6bone community get ਍挀栀攀愀瀀攀爀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀猀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 搀甀攀猀 瀀愀礀椀渀最 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀☀㼠ᴀ☠渀戀猀瀀㬀 㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 刀䤀刀猀 愀爀攀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 爀攀挀漀瘀攀爀 挀漀猀琀猀 昀漀爀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀椀爀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀猀⸀ ഀഀ Giving away any service would seem to go against this. A corollary to the above ਍椀猀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀栀攀 刀䤀刀猀 愀爀攀 樀甀猀琀 挀漀瘀攀爀椀渀最 挀漀猀琀猀 昀漀爀 愀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 ഀഀ are the RIRs doing for  their regular customers. The feeling seemed to be, ਍眀栀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 刀䤀刀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 挀愀爀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀㼀 䰀攀琀 㘀戀漀渀攀 搀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 ഀഀ RIRs theirs.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Bob made it clear that the above are his readings of the concerns and comments, ਍渀漀琀 愀渀礀 刀䤀刀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䤀琀 椀猀渀ᤀ琠 挀氀攀愀爀 琀栀椀猀 瀀爀漀瀀漀猀愀氀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀漀挀攀攀搀Ⰰ 最椀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀猀 攀砀瀀爀攀猀猀攀搀 漀渀 ഀഀ both sides, a soon to be in place 6bone phaseout plan, a decline in the request ਍爀愀琀攀 昀漀爀 㘀戀漀渀攀 瀀爀攀昀椀砀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 猀琀攀愀搀礀 椀渀挀爀攀愀猀攀 椀渀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀攀搀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 瀀爀攀昀椀砀攀猀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 渀漀眀 琀栀攀 愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 刀䤀刀猀 琀漀 琀攀洀瀀漀爀愀爀椀氀礀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀攀 䤀倀瘀㘀 ഀഀ addresses for Internet experiments.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ As for e.f.f.3.ip6.arpa support, Bob has proposed that the 6bone operate the ਍猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 洀攀愀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀琀礀 眀漀甀氀搀 ഀഀ sustain the cost of entering and maintaining the pTLA data in the ਍攀⸀昀⸀昀⸀㌀⸀椀瀀㘀⸀愀爀瀀愀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀⸀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 眀栀攀渀 瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀 椀猀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 刀䤀刀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 ഀഀ pull the eff3.ip6.arpa delegation and they have reclaimed it.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ The RIRs have agreed that in light of the foregoing that there is no need to ਍挀漀渀琀椀渀甀攀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 㘀戀漀渀攀 刀䤀刀 椀渀琀攀最爀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀攀 ഀഀ to manage its own allocations throughout the life of the phaseout plan.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ The RIRs will delegate e.f.f.3.ip6.arpa to name servers that the 6bone community ਍瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀猀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Comments:
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Michel Py agreed with Bob's interpretation of the opinions expressed on the ਍㘀戀漀渀攀 愀渀搀 刀䤀刀 氀椀猀琀猀 眀椀琀栀 爀攀最愀爀搀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀⸀ 䠀攀 愀氀猀漀 琀栀椀渀欀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀爀愀渀猀椀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 刀䤀刀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 ഀഀ would prolong life of 6bone and this is not desirable, therefore supports the ਍挀漀渀挀氀甀猀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 䈀漀戀✀猀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䜀攀漀昀昀 䠀甀猀琀漀渀 渀漀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 氀攀琀琀攀爀 眀愀猀 猀攀渀琀 昀爀漀洀 刀䤀刀猀 琀漀 ഀഀ IAB regarding providing ip6.arpa support for 3ffe, and that it is not up to RIR  ਍琀漀 搀攀氀攀最愀琀攀 攀⸀昀⸀昀⸀㌀⸀椀瀀㘀⸀愀爀瀀愀 琀漀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 ⴀ 椀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 戀礀 琀栀攀 䤀䄀一䄀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍刀愀渀搀礀 䈀甀猀栀 猀愀椀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀愀氀 眀愀礀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀 椀猀 愀渀 䤀ⴀ䐀 眀椀琀栀 䤀䄀一䄀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 琀漀ഀഀ request the IAB to ask IANA to delegate this way.   Randy said he will help Bob ਍搀漀 琀栀椀猀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ ===
਍倀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 瀀栀愀猀攀ⴀ漀甀琀 瀀氀愀渀 ⴀ 䈀漀戀 䠀椀渀搀攀渀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fink-6bone-phaseout-00.txt>
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ SLIDES:
਍☀氀琀㬀㰀愀 栀爀攀昀㴀∀⸀⸀⼀䤀䔀吀䘀ⴀ㔀㘀ⴀ匀愀渀䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀挀漀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀⸀瀀瀀琀∀㸀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀⸀渀攀琀⼀渀最琀爀愀渀猀⼀䤀䔀吀䘀ⴀ㔀㘀ⴀ匀愀渀䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀挀漀⼀㘀戀漀渀攀ⴀ瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀⸀瀀瀀琀㰀⼀愀㸀☀最琀㬀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ <http://6bone.net/ngtrans/IETF-56-SanFrancisco/6bone-phaseout.pdf>
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Bob Hinden then presented the 6bone phase-out plan I-D, under the subtitle ਍☀焀甀漀琀㬀戀攀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 猀琀愀爀琀☀焀甀漀琀㬀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 刀䘀䌀㈀㐀㜀㄀ 猀愀礀猀 㘀戀漀渀攀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀攀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 琀攀洀瀀漀爀愀爀礀ഀഀ addresses that would be reclaimed in the future (with implied renumbering ਍昀漀爀 猀椀琀攀猀 甀猀椀渀最 㘀戀漀渀攀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀攀猀⤀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 吀栀攀 刀䤀刀猀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀椀渀最 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀ഀഀ SubTLAs since 1999. 
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Bob's personal view is that the 6bone should continue until people stop using it. ਍吀栀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 漀戀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 搀攀挀氀椀渀攀 椀渀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀猀 昀漀爀 㘀戀漀渀攀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 猀瀀愀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最爀漀眀琀栀 漀昀 ഀഀ RIR  production allocations, indicates that 6bone is starting to go away ਍渀愀琀甀爀愀氀氀礀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䤀渀 ㈀　　㈀ 洀漀爀攀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 眀攀爀攀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀愀渀 㘀戀漀渀攀 漀渀攀猀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 吀栀攀 瘀㘀漀瀀猀ഀഀ WG replaced ngtrans, which used to oversee the 6bone, but the 6bone is not ਍椀渀 琀栀攀 瘀㘀漀瀀猀 圀䜀 䌀栀愀爀琀攀爀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍吀栀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 瀀氀愀渀 漀甀琀氀椀渀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀爀愀昀琀 椀猀 琀漀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀攀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 䨀甀氀礀 ㄀Ⰰ ㈀　　㐀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഀഀ for these to remain valid until July 1st 2006, after which no 6bone prefixes ਍猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 吀栀攀 瀀氀愀渀 漀戀猀漀氀攀琀攀猀 刀䘀䌀㈀㐀㜀㄀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 䤀琀 椀猀 甀瀀ഀഀ to IPv6 address holders to gain new address space, of whatever prefix length ਍椀猀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀 ⠀猀漀洀攀 瀀吀䰀䄀 栀漀氀搀攀爀猀 洀愀礀 漀渀氀礀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀 愀 猀椀琀攀 瀀爀攀昀椀砀Ⰰ 昀漀爀ഀഀ example). In addition, IANA must not reallocate 3ffe:/16 for at least two ਍礀攀愀爀猀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 挀漀渀昀甀猀椀漀渀 眀椀琀栀 渀攀眀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍吀栀攀爀攀 栀愀猀 愀氀猀漀 戀攀攀渀 愀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 䨀愀渀 ㄀Ⰰ ㈀　　㔀 愀渀搀 䨀甀氀礀 ㄀Ⰰ ㈀　　㔀 愀猀 琀栀攀 ഀഀ allocation ਍挀甀琀漀昀昀 愀渀搀 瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀⼀猀栀甀琀搀漀眀渀 搀愀琀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 㘀戀漀渀攀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 䄀氀猀漀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䤀䄀一䄀 爀攀甀猀攀 琀攀砀琀 ഀഀ that comments on the list said change "MUST make provisions to set it aside..." ਍琀漀 愀 匀䠀伀唀䰀䐀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍㴀㴀㴀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Discussion of the 6bone phase-out plan
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Michel Py noted that there is is a distinction for 6bone between general experiments and original ਍☀焀甀漀琀㬀渀攀眀 猀琀甀昀昀☀焀甀漀琀㬀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀猀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 圀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 猀栀甀琀搀漀眀渀 猀漀漀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 渀漀 最漀漀搀ഀഀ or bad date. 
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Tim Chown noted that routing stability comes by behavior not a specific prefix.  Some 6bone is ਍渀愀琀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 渀攀琀猀 愀爀攀 琀甀渀渀攀氀攀搀⸀ 䠀攀 昀攀氀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 琀椀洀攀氀椀渀攀 椀猀 爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀攀 ഀഀ as there is no barrier to ਍最攀琀琀椀渀最 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 猀瀀愀挀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 ഀഀ stability on 6bone.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Michel Py said there is no point having a 6 month cutoff, so Jan/July is not right, we ਍渀攀攀搀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 ㄀ 礀攀愀爀 昀爀漀洀 挀甀琀漀昀昀 琀漀 欀椀氀氀 搀愀琀攀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䈀漀戀 䠀椀渀搀攀渀 愀猀欀攀搀 椀昀 眀攀 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀  猀栀漀甀氀搀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀 ㄀ 䨀甀氀礀 ㈀　　㐀 愀渀搀 ㄀ 䨀甀氀礀 ㈀　　㔀 愀猀 ഀഀ the stop allocation and phaseout dates respectively?
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Mat Ford said that the IANA re-use should be a MUST - people are going to install filters on ਍琀栀攀 猀栀甀琀搀漀眀渀 搀愀琀攀 愀渀搀 愀渀礀 愀洀戀椀最甀椀琀礀 眀椀氀氀 挀愀甀猀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䈀漀戀 䘀椀渀欀 渀漀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀 ⴀ 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀攀 漀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀礀椀渀最 ✀昀椀氀琀攀爀 渀漀眀✀ ⴀ ഀഀ want to allow flexibility for IANA to re-use this address space as they see fit.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Mat Ford felt that we need to be clear on the filtering date and its implications.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Bob Hinden then asked if we should use July 1 2003, and July 1 2005?
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Tim Chown asked why not use 06/06/06 for the kill date as it had a nice ਍猀礀洀洀攀琀爀礀㼀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䐀愀瘀椀搀 䬀攀猀猀攀渀猀 猀琀愀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀 栀愀搀 渀漀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀漀眀 猀椀稀攀 ⠀戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 猀琀漀瀀 ഀഀ allocation and phaseout), but we must be clear on the ਍椀洀瀀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀渀 昀漀爀 甀猀攀爀猀⸀ 䄀氀猀漀 琀栀愀琀 琀漀漀 洀愀渀礀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 ഀഀ harder to get consensus.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Pekka Savola said that his experience with renumbering is that it can take a year, so we need to give time to move.  We should ਍猀琀漀瀀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀椀渀最 愀猀 猀漀漀渀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 最椀瘀攀 洀漀爀攀 搀攀氀愀礀 漀渀 瀀栀愀猀攀漀甀琀⼀猀栀甀琀搀漀眀渀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䈀漀戀 䘀椀渀欀 愀猀欀攀搀 椀昀 椀琀 椀猀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀漀 猀栀甀琀搀漀眀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 ⠀堀洀愀猀⤀ 栀漀氀椀搀愀礀 琀椀洀攀㼀 ഀഀ Comments seemed to say that summertime was better.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Marc Blanchet stated that the final date is most important.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Christian Huitema felt that ਍䨀愀渀 ㄀Ⰰ ㈀　　㐀 椀猀 伀䬀 ⠀眀攀 眀漀渀琀 最攀琀 愀渀 䤀ⴀ䐀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 戀礀 䨀甀氀礀 ㈀　　㌀⤀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䨀漀爀搀椀 倀愀氀攀琀 渀漀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 愀渀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀愀氀 瀀爀攀昀椀砀 昀爀漀洀 刀䤀刀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 樀甀猀琀 渀攀攀搀 愀渀 甀瀀猀琀爀攀愀洀ഀഀ provider to forward the request on your behalf.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Tony Hain said that he gets a lot of "How do I get a pTLA?" questions.  I tell people they must ਍最漀 愀渀搀 最攀琀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 猀瀀愀挀攀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䄀渀渀攀 䰀漀爀搀 ⠀䄀倀一䤀䌀⤀ 渀漀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 挀栀愀爀最攀 昀漀爀 愀渀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀愀氀 瀀爀攀昀椀砀 昀爀漀洀 䄀倀一䤀䌀 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 漀甀爀 氀漀眀攀猀琀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ possible fee ($625 US per annum), allocated on a one-year basis, and that you ਍挀愀渀 愀瀀瀀氀礀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀⸀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ
਍䄀砀攀氀 倀愀眀氀椀欀 ⠀刀䤀倀䔀⤀ 猀愀椀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀漀 最攀琀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀愀氀 猀瀀愀挀攀 礀漀甀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 愀 洀攀洀戀攀爀⸀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 ഀഀ He noted that some 90% of 6bone users in the RIPE region are already members.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Ray Plzak (ARIN) said that there is no ARIN policy yet on experimental addresses.
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ The meeting voted for cutoff and kill/shutdown dates and chose:
਍䄀氀氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀 挀甀琀漀昀昀㨀☀渀戀猀瀀㬀 ㄀⼀㄀⼀　㐀㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Phaseout/Shutdown:  6/6/06
਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ Bob Fink will reissue the phaseout draft with the changes from this meeting.
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਍㰀戀爀㸀ഀഀ The meeting adjourned.
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